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Geopolitics Russia: Find the 7 differences!

By JohnLast 1315 days ago Comments (64)
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От 16 декември 2011

 

Pro-European protesters and Pro-Russian protesters. Find the differences!

Is there any deeper geopolitical meaning of the struggle in Ukraine?

I think Putin is tryinging to establish the old two pole model from the cold war. In that model Russia was one of the colossal powers. Well, the only power able to destroy the US.

This the game of Putin is twofold. Restablishing Russia as a mobilized force in the world arena and reinforcing beyound any democratic standards his reputation within Russia.

While the pro-western protesters use the somewhat cool methods of unarmed struggle of Gene Sharp the pro-russian protesters look more like special forces specially trained and equipped. If we compare the US should send Delta Force and Marine Recon to protest over the Maidan.

If it was not deeply sad that would be hilarious.

The Russian stocks are falling. They will become highly speculative in this moment. 

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  • jaguar1637 1314 days ago

    Yep, Ukraine is a big challenge for Putin.

    I made the prediction Putin will grab Ukraine soon or late, and the current events are going in this direction.

    There is another story behing Ukraine. by this way Putin shows his disagrement about the futur Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) between Europa and USA.

    http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/ttip/

    Here, in Europa, nobody knows exactly what's going on, bcoz the negociations stay secret and hidden to the public. This is not fair for People from Europa but also not fair for Russia economical interests


  • JohnLast 1314 days ago

    Your predictions amazed me. Something big is going on. The big thing is who is going to dominate the world.

    Maybe we pass from the transition of global US hegemony to shared multipole hegemony.

    Japan is militarizing quickly too. 

  • jaguar1637 1313 days ago

    As far as I wrote here on this web site, those current years until 2016, there will be negociations between USA, Russia and China and things will be smoothed. 

    Today, there is a potential risk of a crash market around end of april to may-June 2014, there are also a lot's of money (trillions of dollars) not invested in futures, actions or in any enterprises.

    For 2017, there is a risk of a blockage (in negociation deals). Russia is not against the american people, but in confrontation w/ the american government and their goals.

    The problem is : - if the negociations are stoppped, there is a risk of sudden and severe conflict. (I am aware of this information since 1999 and the mathematical statistics shows a 10 years period for any conflits)

    Here, in France, Francois Hollande got the risk not to being able to finish his mandat as president. 

  • jaguar1637 1313 days ago

    When Ukraina will fall in Russian's hands, there will be a risk for Romania, Lettonia too to follow into the same way.

    For 2017, the most ilmportant will be , not having montains of golden pieces, but getting at minimum 3 strong and reliable friends => check what said John Titor 

    (if you remember, I told you one night aournd 2000, I was in touch w/ this guy telling in the chat crazy things, I thought at this time, this guy was totally nuts, but.... he was quite true. ...  http://www.johntitor.com/  check out this)

  • JohnLast 1313 days ago


    Fact Sheet

    Office of the Spokesperson
    Washington, DC
    March 5, 2014
     

    As Russia spins a false narrative to justify its illegal actions in Ukraine, the world has not seen such startling Russian fiction since Dostoyevsky wrote, “The formula ‘two times two equals five’ is not without its attractions.”

    Below are 10 of President Vladimir Putin’s recent claims justifying Russian aggression in the Ukraine, followed by the facts that his assertions ignore or distort.

    1. Mr. Putin says:  Russian forces in Crimea are only acting to protect Russian military assets. It is “citizens’ defense groups,” not Russian forces, who have seized infrastructure and military facilities in Crimea.

    The Facts:  Strong evidence suggests that members of Russian security services are at the heart of the highly organized anti-Ukraine forces in Crimea. While these units wear uniforms without insignia, they drive vehicles with Russian military license plates and freely identify themselves as Russian security forces when asked by the international media and the Ukrainian military. Moreover, these individuals are armed with weapons not generally available to civilians.

    2. Mr. Putin says:  Russia’s actions fall within the scope of the 1997 Friendship Treaty between Ukraine and the Russian Federation.

    The Facts:  The 1997 agreement requires Russia to respect Ukraine’s territorial integrity. Russia’s military actions in Ukraine, which have given them operational control of Crimea, are in clear violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.

    3. Mr. Putin says:  The opposition failed to implement the February 21 agreement with former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

    The Facts:  The February 21 agreement laid out a plan in which the Rada, or Parliament, would pass a bill to return Ukraine to its 2004 Constitution, thus returning the country to a constitutional system centered around its parliament. Under the terms of the agreement, Yanukovych was to sign the enacting legislation within 24 hours and bring the crisis to a peaceful conclusion. Yanukovych refused to keep his end of the bargain. Instead, he packed up his home and fled, leaving behind evidence of wide-scale corruption.

    4. Mr. Putin says:  Ukraine’s government is illegitimate. Yanukovych is still the legitimate leader of Ukraine.

    The Facts:  On March 4, President Putin himself acknowledged the reality that Yanukovych “has no political future.” After Yanukovych fled Ukraine, even his own Party of Regions turned against him, voting to confirm his withdrawal from office and to support the new government. Ukraine’s new government was approved by the democratically elected Ukrainian Parliament, with 371 votes – more than an 82% majority. The interim government of Ukraine is a government of the people, which will shepherd the country toward democratic elections on May 25th – elections that will allow all Ukrainians to have a voice in the future of their country.

    5. Mr. Putin says:  There is a humanitarian crisis and hundreds of thousands are fleeing Ukraine to Russia and seeking asylum.

    The Facts:  To date, there is absolutely no evidence of a humanitarian crisis. Nor is there evidence of a flood of asylum-seekers fleeing Ukraine for Russia. International organizations on the ground have investigated by talking with Ukrainian border guards, who also refuted these claims. Independent journalists observing the border have also reported no such flood of refugees.

    6. Mr. Putin says:  Ethnic Russians are under threat.

    The Facts:  Outside of Russian press and Russian state television, there are no credible reports of any ethnic Russians being under threat. The new Ukrainian government placed a priority on peace and reconciliation from the outset. President Oleksandr Turchynov refused to sign legislation limiting the use of the Russian language at regional level. Ethnic Russians and Russian speakers have filed petitions attesting that their communities have not experienced threats. Furthermore, since the new government was established, calm has returned to Kyiv. There has been no surge in crime, no looting, and no retribution against political opponents.

    7. Mr. Putin says:  Russian bases are under threat.

    The Facts:  Russian military facilities were and remain secure, and the new Ukrainian government has pledged to abide by all existing international agreements, including those covering Russian bases. It is Ukrainian bases in Crimea that are under threat from Russian military action.

    8. Mr. Putin says:  There have been mass attacks on churches and synagogues in southern and eastern Ukraine.

    The Facts:  Religious leaders in the country and international religious freedom advocates active in Ukraine have said there have been no incidents of attacks on churches. All of Ukraine’s church leaders, including representatives of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate, have expressed support for the new political leadership, calling for national unity and a period of healing. Jewish groups in southern and eastern Ukraine report that they have not seen an increase in anti-Semitic incidents.

    9. Mr. Putin says:  Kyiv is trying to destabilize Crimea.

    The Facts:  Ukraine’s interim government has acted with restraint and sought dialogue. Russian troops, on the other hand, have moved beyond their bases to seize political objectives and infrastructure in Crimea. The government in Kyiv immediately sent the former Chief of Defense to defuse the situation. Petro Poroshenko, the latest government emissary to pursue dialogue in Crimea, was prevented from entering the Crimean Rada.

    10. Mr. Putin says:  The Rada is under the influence of extremists or terrorists.

    The Facts:  The Rada is the most representative institution in Ukraine. Recent legislation has passed with large majorities, including from representatives of eastern Ukraine. Far-right wing ultranationalist groups, some of which were involved in open clashes with security forces during the EuroMaidan protests, are not represented in the Rada. There is no indication that the Ukrainian government would pursue discriminatory policies; on the contrary, they have publicly stated exactly the opposite.

     http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/03/222988.htm

  • jaguar1637 1312 days ago

    $$After taking Ukrainia, Russia will take Moldova, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia and Esthonia

    After watching this political game, I can tell (as a chess player) , that the strategy used, is like creating a quick and non-expected counter-attack on the most critical and fragile point from Europa forces. 

    To become successful, Russia will deny any interference w/ Pro-Russia located in Ukraina. I think Ukraina will beclong to Russia, soon (b4 June) or later (b4 2017)

    At the same time, this is the way to create blockage on the transatlantic trade and investiments. 

    There two possibilities :

    • - USA could make an annexion of Europa (but the european people could react against and not accept this diktat)
    • - Europa will stayed as it, minus Ukraina
     
    Europa is raped by a Zeus in the form of a bull
    We can imagine what is the meaning of the Bull
    (Bull is the symbol of the forex market !! from the ultra-liberal system. isn't it ?)
    Bull could be either USA, either Russia ! lol
     
     
  • jaguar1637 1312 days ago

    Listen to http://www.prorussia.tv/          Something different, a point of view 

    Well, btw, still no news from Island ! (they just escaped !)

  • JohnLast 1311 days ago

    Pro Russia TV: La verite toute entiere.

    Cela dit tout lol.

    The question is to think what would be the economic consequences of all this. Europe really hates the idea of making economical sanctions to Russia, the US do not care at all.

    I think US is really happy with the crisis because this crisis will make weaker both Europe and Russia. Russia is going to be more or less isolated by reigniting the cold war concepts.

    Putin on his hand sees his public image with a hero status. That means that his dominance in his own country cannot be disputed. So even if it may be bad for Russian in the long term it is good for his politics.

    Russian people feel like germans at the beginning of the WW2. They really like the idea of annexation of Crimea. They felt humiliated by loosing the invincible imperial status after the scission of USSR. The same humuliation was for germans after loosing WWI. The historical parralel is too similar to be ignored.

    The germans pretended to act in Poland in order to protect their own German population being oppressed by polish. The Russians pretend that Russians are being oppressed within Ukraine.

    Oh man that is the same.

    You should take a look in an original Russian forum, Russians really believe that their cause is just and right. Some consider that they are self sufficient and that they need nobody no foreign trade at all. And most of all they are ready to take the economical consequences whatever they may be.

    As for Europeans we will see our land drilled and poisonned by greedy US corporations for  Shale gas, instead of benefitting of the Russian natural gas reserves.

    The guys who ignite the war are evil geniouses, now slav people are killing slav people, brothers are killing brothers. Bad consequences for all but several corporate shareholders.

     

     

  • jaguar1637 1311 days ago

    Another point that Russia can not tolerate anymore, NATO wanted to install nuclear nukes in Ukraine this year.

    So, in my humble opinion, Ukraine will become russian very soon

     

  • JohnLast 1309 days ago

    Tom is great. Thank you for the link.

  • JohnLast 1309 days ago

    You can't enforce by force the EU

    Paradoxally the solution of the crisis is exactly what Putin and the pro russian activists demand for Eastern Ukraine. More authonomy and federalism.

    That is the only peacefull solution of this crisis.

    The problem is how to make the parties to accept that without being humiliated. 

    Even if the people go home the end result will be much worse and will lead to bigger crisis lately.

    The truth is that the EU cannot be enforced by force. That is the whole idea of the EU.

    You can't force the Eastern Ukraine to be bound by the EU regulations.   

    Especially because the EU is not paradise. The EU will lead to BIG social sacrifices in the future. Those sacrifices can be taken only by people who are prepared and willing to do so.

    The whole EU project is corrupt and needs Reengeneering.

    If you force social sacrifices to people who are not willing to take that. That will lead to BIG European crisis much worse than the localized Ukrainian crisis.

    Take for example Bulgaria. What happened? As an EU country really nothing happened. The country still remains the poorest EU country. The full competition rules made the home industry uncompetitive. The uneployment is very high. The only thing that keeps going is the money sent in the country by the relatives living abroad. 

    That is what is going to happen in Eastern Ukraine. The industry is going to be destroyed. The people are going to be unemployed. The corruption will flourish.

    The EU has lost itself. All the good EU projects in my country are taken by well connected people (the Oligarchy). Now the Bulgarian Oligarchy is going to be represented again in the European Parliament. How legitimate this EU Parliament can be as we see that means of political engeneering a key oligarchic figure (Delian Peevski) is going to be represented there because as a product of electoral law engeneering.

    The point of view of East Ukrainian people

    What those East Ukrainian people see in Putin. 

    Putin  is just a man. But a man who reestablished Russia as a global player. The man who stopped the massive stealing of Russian natural ressources by a small company of Oligarches.

    A man who will take care of the small people and make them live in relative confort. A man who will keep their jobs.

    Those people want just that. In their eyes the actual ukrainian government is illegal and came into power be the complex US social engeneering. 

    US Europe and Russia: Love triangle

    What really US want is that they create an unresolvable conflict between EU and Russia. US fear a lot a strong connection between EU and Russia. Imagine technologically strong EU with Russia full of energy ressources and manpower. That is a very bad dream for the US policy makers. Together EU and Russia are stong enough to challange the US hegemony military and economically.

    Media coverage 

    Now all the media coverage is targeted towards the public opinion and its sentiment. Putin the bad guy ready to nuke you if necessary. US as good guys but helpless.

    End result: turn to US isolate Russia appears as the only choice.

     

  • JohnLast 1309 days ago

    I thing I would make a new blog post based on the above comment. This a trial to have an overlook over the crisis and remaining objective.

    Nevertheless I like the sense of humour aspect. 

  • JohnLast 1309 days ago

    Pro Russian protesters and Counter strike. LOL.

     

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  • jaguar1637 1306 days ago

    As predicted by me, there are since yesterday Monday 21 march 2014, further troubles in Ukraine 

    The roots of those troubles comes from the fact, at the NATO Bucarest commit, the conclusions were NOT to include Ukraine and Georgia in NATO, but only get partnership (like for training).

    Also, the people at the head of EU, ahve no european identity. They act if they were leading a minor or sub USA. That's is not in the spirit of the Europa birth.

    The first aim of Europa is :  - to build a common and peacefull land, after the horrible events of the WWII. 

    As far as I know, Russia has paid a huge tribute in this war, and have to be considered as best friend, even if the american way of life got European people.

  • JohnLast 1305 days ago

    it isobvious that there are some dark forces which seek a further intensification of the conflict. I see all the recent provocations as such things. It is very ugly.

  • JohnLast 1305 days ago

    I mean it is very ugly to kill people for making provocations. The people are considered like pawns that can be sacrificed with such an ease.

  • jaguar1637 1302 days ago

    I am very impressed by the fact, nobody can see inside this, a possibility of the WWIII here

  • JohnLast 1296 days ago

    Thank you the English subtitles on youtube work quite well.
     

  • isuborsky 1294 days ago

    History of Pro-European protest in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrJIIeADD45RsffK2yYgmSw/videos

  • JohnLast 1294 days ago

    Thank you for the links they are most appreciated. For the moment I stick with my analysis further posts ago. War games are the games which Putin masters to perfection. You can't play wargames with Putin. Something else should be done but what this is a millions dollars worth answer.